Yes.
Are smokeless tobacco products permitted on Amtrak? There doesn't seem to be policy against the stuff, but I've never seen anybody dipping.
You mean like chewing tobacco?
People chew all the time...
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 04:54 PM
I think it's BS how some places are banning E-Cigaretts! Really??? And why??? Because if smokers stop smoking real Cigaretts then the Government will lose money with their illegal taxation laws!!!!! Bull Crap!!!
How does banning e-cigarettes have anything to do with that? Regular cigarettes are banned too. It's not like Amtrak is saying regular cigarettes are okay but e-cigarettes aren't.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:50 AM
I think it's BS how some places are banning E-Cigaretts! Really??? And why??? Because if smokers stop smoking real Cigaretts then the Government will lose money with their illegal taxation laws!!!!! Bull Crap!!!
How does banning e-cigarettes have anything to do with that? Regular cigarettes are banned too. It's not like Amtrak is saying regular cigarettes are okay but e-cigarettes aren't.
I agree that Amtrak should ban ALL cigarettes, cigars, and tobacco pipes.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:04 AM
This is simply untrue. I was on planes when smoking was allowed, and I left extremely sick, routinely.Believe it or not the air quality used to be better on planes and trains when they allowed smoking.
Cigarette smoke is very, VERY bad for you. And they didn't ventilate it hardly at all.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:08 AM
This is simply untrue. I was on planes when smoking was allowed, and I left extremely sick, routinely.
Believe it or not the air quality used to be better on planes and trains when they allowed smoking.
Cigarette smoke is very, VERY bad for you. And they didn't ventilate it hardly at all.
While I fully agree, please note that Ben G posted a long time ago.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:10 PM
They do, except on the AutoTrain.
I think it's BS how some places are banning E-Cigaretts! Really??? And why??? Because if smokers stop smoking real Cigaretts then the Government will lose money with their illegal taxation laws!!!!! Bull Crap!!!
How does banning e-cigarettes have anything to do with that? Regular cigarettes are banned too. It's not like Amtrak is saying regular cigarettes are okay but e-cigarettes aren't.
I agree that Amtrak should ban ALL cigarettes, cigars, and tobacco pipes.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:30 PM
This is simply untrue. I was on planes when smoking was allowed, and I left extremely sick, routinely.
Believe it or not the air quality used to be better on planes and trains when they allowed smoking.
Cigarette smoke is very, VERY bad for you. And they didn't ventilate it hardly at all.
For aircraft that isn't true. The cabin air turns over two to three times every minute and the air is filtered that reduces the germ level by ;92-98%.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:43 PM
They do, except on the AutoTrain.
I think it's BS how some places are banning E-Cigaretts! Really??? And why??? Because if smokers stop smoking real Cigaretts then the Government will lose money with their illegal taxation laws!!!!! Bull Crap!!!
How does banning e-cigarettes have anything to do with that? Regular cigarettes are banned too. It's not like Amtrak is saying regular cigarettes are okay but e-cigarettes aren't.
I agree that Amtrak should ban ALL cigarettes, cigars, and tobacco pipes.
I know, but Robyn said that Amtrak should not ban E-cigarettes.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:37 PM
This is simply untrue. I was on planes when smoking was allowed, and I left extremely sick, routinely.
Believe it or not the air quality used to be better on planes and trains when they allowed smoking.
Cigarette smoke is very, VERY bad for you. And they didn't ventilate it hardly at all.
For aircraft that isn't true. The cabin air turns over two to three times every minute and the air is filtered that reduces the germ level by ;92-98%.
Source?
Germ is really more of a vague marketing term than any sort of scientific designation. My understanding is that the ventilation rate of cabin air depends on multiple factors including the specific aircraft type, airspeed, engine rotation, altitude, and rate of ascent/descent. The ventilation rate itself is most directly controlled by automatic release valves which are designed to maintain a specific cabin pressure rather than a given refresh rate and during some stages of flight virtually no cabin air is released at all. Even if you wanted to replace the air two or three times every minute it's by no means guaranteed this would be possible within the limits of conventional jet engines, air packs, and airframes. Assuming you could heat and cool the air to a reasonable temperature fast enough, and assuming the cabin air release mechanism could somehow keep up, such a fast ventilation rate would still require a near constant whirlwind of continuous air movement and would almost certainly result in nearly immediate oxygen depletion. Not something you'd want to worry about on a commercial passenger airliner.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:03 AM
Another problem is when passengers smell of smoke on the train. Sitting next to someone who has smoked or been in a room with smokers is never pleasant. Disallowing smoking on platforms and other station grounds would only go so far; smokers need to wear clothing on the train that hasn't been around cigarette smoke.
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