The 'G' models were not designed in house by MCI, but were a derivative of Mexican builder Dina's Viaggio bus, from that era when Dina briefly owned MCI...
I would love to see Greyhound get the J4500's, those would look awesome in the new paint scheme. Also, Id like to see the Prevost H3-45's like New York Trailways has. I know Im dreaming on the J and H3 models, but oh well.
The D4505's do ride very nicely. I enjoyed my trip back from New Orleans to Lafayette on it. Another thing I noticed between the D4505 and the D4500 is that the newer buses have much better headlights, they are bigger and cast more light. The driver said he prefers the D4505 because they can see farther down the lane than with the smaller square headlights.
Im gonna make you laugh, the driver and I were discussing bus models, and comparisons. He was like, hey, do you work for GLI? I said no, Im just an avid train and bus fan. He says, you should hire on as a dispatcher, you know your models quite well. Haha.
About the J4500, it's apparently designed as a tour bus, not fr line-haul. I also prefer the D4505, I like the more rounded look, especially at the top of the windshield.
Then the H3-45, I've never really liked Prevosts, mainly for the big "glass box" at the front with no bar at the top. Prevost themselves also say the the X3-45 is designed for line-haul, H3-45 is designed for touring.
But anyway, I've really wanted to know why others hate the G4500. Everybody that knows about American buses seems to hate the G4500. I don't like it for the faulty mechanisms and poor ride quality. What about you guys?
Most of us think they are junk.... a low cost attempt to offer a 'Euro-style' coach.
As for H-3 versus X-3 Prevost's....try to stuff the baggage and 'kitchen sinks', that college students bring with them when starting the new school year in an X-3's two shallow bays....it is mission, impossible. Often have to depart with empty seats, as there is simply no more room for baggage below. From a driver's standpoint, I will say that the lower X-3 handles somewhat better. And regarding the J4500's....again from a driver's standpoint, never felt 'at home' behind the wheel in those, and the ones my company purchased have never been popular with the driver's....we even prefer the much older 102D's over them,
As for seating comfort....the newest seats are designed for crash 'containment', with or without seatbelt use, derived from those used in school buses. And the seat power outlets when located at the bottom preclude you from sliding your legs very much forward, (you hit your shins). So all in all less comfortable than the older model seats.
Oh, so that's how the G4500 came to be. I saw a Nor Cal Bus Fans newsletter saying it was actually a D-series with the look of a Renaissance. It lloks like most MCI buses have big luggage bays, though, at least in my expierience.
Ive seen a number of engine fires reported with the G4500, due to as railiner stated, faulty electronics. The G models rode rough, and the hard seats didnt help either.
The H3's luggage bays are like houses compared to the X-3's haha. In fact, when I was in Binghamton ready for departure on the X-3, an NY Trailways bus pulled up next to us, and the luggage bays had as much baggage as ours, but more room to store them neatly.
As far as for the J4500's, yeah, I realize that they arent built for line run duty, but Peter Pan uses them for their runs. So they cant be too bad.
Hopefully I will get to ride one of the H3-45's when I move to Syracuse. Ill be going back and forth between there and Binghamton, where my girlfriend picks me up at.
I do like the H3-40s better than the other foreign buses. It's my favourite foreign bus, beating the X3-45, C2045, TD925, Viaggio, or whatever. Though I still don't like the "glass box."
What would you say is a driver's favourite bus?
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