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#21 Devil's Advocate

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:51 AM

I think you've hit upon one of the greatest weaknesses of our democratic system. One ends up voting for the candidate, if one does not feel so disenfranchised that one doesn't vote, who most closely matches our opinions and ideas, even if we only agree with that candidate 2% of the time.


Here are some of the other "greatest weaknesses" in our surprisingly non-democratic system of government, at least as I see them.

+ Partisan Gerrymandering that greatly benefits the ruling party (and punishes minority parties) every ten years.

+ Lack of Transparency. Even to this day there is no way to verify that your vote was counted or who it was counted for. We get all of the detriments of new technology (no paper records, no recounts) with none of the benefits (anonymous verification of your own vote).

+ An Electoral Collage that makes a blue vote count for nothing in a red state, a red vote count for nothing in a blue state, and a third party vote count for NOBODY AT ALL.

+ Virtually Unlimited Private Funding of elections that helps create a universal conflict-of-interest that can be spread across every single politician and party. Large companies can simply fund both sides of the isle. That way no matter who wins they ALL owe something in return. And if they ever don't live up to that assumption you can simply fund the challenger the next time around.

And that's just a few obvious issues right off the top of my head.

Being the "best that's ever been" is small comfort when you live in a system this fundamentally flawed, this easily corruptible, and this difficult to fix.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:07 PM

I'm not at all certain that we have the "best that's ever been" I like many aspects of the parliamentary system too.

#23 Anthony

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 02:45 PM

OK, what the heck does this have to do with Site Improvements?


I think you've hit upon one of the greatest weaknesses of our democratic system. One ends up voting for the candidate, if one does not feel so disenfranchised that one doesn't vote, who most closely matches our opinions and ideas, even if we only agree with that candidate 2% of the time.


Here are some of the other "greatest weaknesses" in our surprisingly non-democratic system of government, at least as I see them.

+ Partisan Gerrymandering that greatly benefits the ruling party (and punishes minority parties) every ten years.

+ Lack of Transparency. Even to this day there is no way to verify that your vote was counted or who it was counted for. We get all of the detriments of new technology (no paper records, no recounts) with none of the benefits (anonymous verification of your own vote).

+ An Electoral Collage that makes a blue vote count for nothing in a red state, a red vote count for nothing in a blue state, and a third party vote count for NOBODY AT ALL.

+ Virtually Unlimited Private Funding of elections that helps create a universal conflict-of-interest that can be spread across every single politician and party. Large companies can simply fund both sides of the isle. That way no matter who wins they ALL owe something in return. And if they ever don't live up to that assumption you can simply fund the challenger the next time around.

And that's just a few obvious issues right off the top of my head.

Being the "best that's ever been" is small comfort when you live in a system this fundamentally flawed, this easily corruptible, and this difficult to fix.



#24 Devil's Advocate

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 03:17 PM

OK, what the heck does this have to do with Site Improvements?

Nothing in particular, but if we had a dislike button I guess you could have voted it down. :lol:

Maybe you could tell us if you're leaning for or against such a thing?

If you're leaning toward it then maybe AU could have a contest to see which post gets the most "like" votes in a month?

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Over 50,000 people just like you recently signed a petition to expand high speed passenger rail in the United States of America.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 03:42 PM

See? I want to "like" this post. But I have nothing to add. So this is just about me taking up space.


OK, what the heck does this have to do with Site Improvements?

Nothing in particular, but if we had a dislike button I guess you could have voted it down. :lol:

Maybe you could tell us if you're leaning for or against such a thing?

If you're leaning toward it then maybe AU could have a contest to see which post gets the most "like" votes in a month?



#26 Blue Marble Travel

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 05:48 PM

I've found another solution to this, since "the admin" doesn't seem to feel that the change is warranted: you can just send a private thank you to the poster. Doesn't quite give the satisfaction of public approval, but it's better than nothing.

Still think that a "like" button would be a good idea.

#27 WhoozOn1st

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 06:54 PM

Still think that a "like" button would be a good idea.

Dislike.
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#28 Devil's Advocate

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:53 PM

I think Anthony is just busy with his day job. If you really want a response you might get it by sending him a PM or going through one of the moderators or joining the chat session hosted each Sunday. I would not expect to see any changes right away but if it's easy to implement during the next upgrade you might get it.

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Long live The Coast Starlight, The California Zephyr, The Empire Builder, The Southwest Chief, and The Canadian.


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Posted 15 April 2012 - 08:52 PM

Still think that a "like" button would be a good idea.

Dislike.

Like.

(your dislike of a "like" button)

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 09:23 PM


Still think that a "like" button would be a good idea.

Dislike.

Like.

(your dislike of a "like" button)


"Like" this if you dislike this.

Not making any specific comments on the previous two posts, but just felt like making fun of the way Facebook does things and how various folks and groups get around it.
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:53 PM

The staff did discuss this back when the topic first came up and it was decided to leave that function turned off. Sorry! :(
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:02 AM

The staff did discuss this back when the topic first came up and it was decided to leave that function turned off. Sorry! :(


OK, thanks for the input, at least.



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