Lower level vs. upper level on EB
Posted 08 February 2011 - 05:20 PM
Posted 08 February 2011 - 07:23 PM
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Posted 08 February 2011 - 08:30 PM
Just wondering if there are any differences comfort / noise wise between upper and lower level travel on the Empire Builder. Looking at travel towards the end of May and the $550 (est.) roomette is a bit out of price range. Any input appreciated.
If you are traveling on the Empire Builder and will be on there for more than one night, then by all means get a lower level seat. You will actually be able to get a decent nights sleep down there.
Posted 09 February 2011 - 03:25 PM
Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:36 PM
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 01:12 AM
Posted 10 February 2011 - 08:21 AM
I think the lower level would allow you to sleep since there no foot traffic going by you, and think it is a great area if you are traveling with a group of friends.
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 01:07 PM
It is much quieter than the top floor with no thru traffic. There are only a few seats there and sometimes there are several people with physical handicaps (which this section is reserved for by some conductors) As long as the door between the seating area and the outer deck with restrooms and exit doors remains closed, it is a nice quiet ride. There seemed to be an older passenger group there and the expectations are that it stay quiet, at least at night.
But if I were on the EB and traveling coach across the country I might prefer the upper deck since the view is a bit better in my opinion. And of course, as mentioned above, I would be in the lounge car looking out both sides on that trip
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 01:24 PM
On the EB both on the way to Seattle and on the way back to Pittsburgh, the observation car was always packed, so we spent all our time in the roomette. On the trip to DC, which I think is more scenic, we spent both days in the observation car and it was never full.
Posted 10 February 2011 - 09:04 PM
Posted 11 February 2011 - 07:32 AM
The upper level has much, much better views. On the last trip I actually saw two moose (what's the plural for moose?) when I was on the upper level. I'd never seen them in the wild before. Great views from the upper level.
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 08:12 AM
... On the last trip I actually saw two moose (what's the plural for moose?)...
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