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[trainman74]

Wait a minute! Which train is the EC? It's not a LD, so no sleepers.

"Empire Constructor" -- synonym for "Empire Builder."

Seriously, I believe Acela150 meant "EC" as an abbreviation for "East Coast."

[Swadian Hardcore]

Wait a minute! Which train is the EC? It's not a LD, so no sleepers.

"Empire Constructor" -- synonym for "Empire Builder."

Seriously, I believe Acela150 meant "EC" as an abbreviation for "East Coast."

Well, itf it was East Coast, Acele150 could have said Silver Service. Then again, I dont think this is worth argueing about.

Edited by Swadian Hardcore, 13 April 2012 - 02:58 PM.

[Ryan]

I'm pretty sure that the Crescent isn't "Silver Service".

[Swadian Hardcore]

I'm pretty sure that the Crescent isn't "Silver Service".

The Crescent does not run along the East Coast for the majority of its route. Why does everybody want to argue about this? I am sure Acela150 can clear it up.

[Ryan]

But it does change consists with the Silvers and put the sleepers on the tail during the winter time, so it was included in the trains that Acela150 was talking about.

Nobody is arguing about anything, you just seem to be confused by what Acela150 meant.

[Donctor]

When were sleepers put on the head end on EC trains?? This week?

Yes.

[gaspeamtrak]

When were sleepers put on the head end on EC trains?? This week?

Yes.

Hi "Donctor"!
Sorry to be a bit off topic.
I will be traveling on #49 next Thursday ,May 10/12 from Buffalo, NY to Chicago for NTD and returning on Sunday May 13/12 on #48.
I was wondering if you or anubody else can give me a updated consist for the LSL?
Thank You!!!

[PRR 60]

When were sleepers put on the head end on EC trains?? This week?

Yes.

Hi "Donctor"!
Sorry to be a bit off topic.
I will be traveling on #49 next Thursday ,May 10/12 from Buffalo, NY to Chicago for NTD and returning on Sunday May 13/12 on #48.
I was wondering if you or anubody else can give me a updated consist for the LSL?
Thank You!!!

The first post in this topic is regularly updated by Donctor and shows the latest info for each train's consist.

[Trogdor]

The Lake Shore's consist rarely changes. The only variables are the occasional extra coach for peak periods, and sometimes the Boston sleeper getting blanked and replaced by a third sleeper out of New York.

[Swadian Hardcore]

The Lake Shore's consist rarely changes. The only variables are the occasional extra coach for peak periods, and sometimes the Boston sleeper getting blanked and replaced by a third sleeper out of New York.

What happens to the BOS sleeper pax?

[AlanB]

The Lake Shore's consist rarely changes. The only variables are the occasional extra coach for peak periods, and sometimes the Boston sleeper getting blanked and replaced by a third sleeper out of New York.

What happens to the BOS sleeper pax?

When that happens, they usually ride coach to Albany. Sunnyside yard adds a third sleeper to the NY section, so once it get there, the Boston sleeper passengers transfer into that empty third sleeper. Then Chicago fixed the order of the consist when the LSL gets there.

The sleeper pax still get their free meal in the cafe and probably receive some compensation for the loss of the sleeper for the first few hours.

[Eric S]

The Lake Shore's consist rarely changes. The only variables are the occasional extra coach for peak periods, and sometimes the Boston sleeper getting blanked and replaced by a third sleeper out of New York.

What happens to the BOS sleeper pax?

When that happens, they usually ride coach to Albany. Sunnyside yard adds a third sleeper to the NY section, so once it get there, the Boston sleeper passengers transfer into that empty third sleeper. Then Chicago fixed the order of the consist when the LSL gets there.

The sleeper pax still get their free meal in the cafe and probably receive some compensation for the loss of the sleeper for the first few hours.

Not necessarily. In March 2011, I traveled CHI-BOS and was initially ticketed on 448 in a roomette. The day before I left CHI (actually MKE, but anyway) I was called and told because of a mechanical issue I would be in a roomette on 48 CHI-ALB and coach on 448 ALB-BOS. The SCA (or TA-S) did not seem aware or concerned that I and a few others had been bumped/moved into a sleeper on 48 and had to move to coach at ALB. I had been hoping the crew would let me (and the others) move from sleeper to coach without getting off the train, but we were required to get off and the re-board from the station with 448 passengers originating in ALB. Not too big of a deal, all in all, and I did get some sort of a refund of the ALB-BOS portion of my fare.

[Donctor]

The Lake Shore's consist rarely changes. The only variables are the occasional extra coach for peak periods, and sometimes the Boston sleeper getting blanked and replaced by a third sleeper out of New York.

What happens to the BOS sleeper pax?

When that happens, they usually ride coach to Albany. Sunnyside yard adds a third sleeper to the NY section, so once it get there, the Boston sleeper passengers transfer into that empty third sleeper. Then Chicago fixed the order of the consist when the LSL gets there.

The sleeper pax still get their free meal in the cafe and probably receive some compensation for the loss of the sleeper for the first few hours.

Not necessarily. In March 2011, I traveled CHI-BOS and was initially ticketed on 448 in a roomette. The day before I left CHI (actually MKE, but anyway) I was called and told because of a mechanical issue I would be in a roomette on 48 CHI-ALB and coach on 448 ALB-BOS. The SCA (or TA-S) did not seem aware or concerned that I and a few others had been bumped/moved into a sleeper on 48 and had to move to coach at ALB. I had been hoping the crew would let me (and the others) move from sleeper to coach without getting off the train, but we were required to get off and the re-board from the station with 448 passengers originating in ALB. Not too big of a deal, all in all, and I did get some sort of a refund of the ALB-BOS portion of my fare.

When the mechanical issue is more last-minute (which it usually is), pax aren't called in advance.

[WellTrained]

Great info. Thanks for keeping it up to date. Would it make sense to add the number of road units used typically on each train? I gather at theast 3 LDs run with one unit. .


On which have sleepers at the rear, let's not forget 27/28 . That's the longest walk to the diner from sleeper of any Amtrak train I've ridden.

[Donctor]

Great info. Thanks for keeping it up to date. Would it make sense to add the number of road units used typically on each train? I gather at theast 3 LDs run with one unit. .

I've considered adding power, but have decided against it. This thread (in its current incarnation) is intended to be more a resource for riders than a resource for rail fans. The average rider doesn't care if their train has 1 P42 or 9 AEMs.

(It is for this reason that I am contemplating removing the notes on equipment requirements.)

[WellTrained]

Had totally forgotten about this until it was cited in another thread. Is it still current? If so, deserves to be bumped back up to the top.

[PRR 60]

Had totally forgotten about this until it was cited in another thread. Is it still current? If so, deserves to be bumped back up to the top.

Yes, it is up to date. Donctor revises the first post as changes occur. The last update was 11/25/2012. I pinned up so it will stay on top.

[BOS-T-Time]

Hello,
I thought the East Coast train consists were reversed with the sleepers on the back for the winter? Or does Amtrak wait until it gets colder?

BOS-T-Time

Edited by BOS-T-Time, 02 January 2013 - 03:18 PM.

[The Davy Crockett]

Hello,
I thought the East Coast train consists were reversed with the sleepers on the back for the winter? Or does Amtrak wait until it gets colder?

BOS-T-Time

They usually do. I was by my hometown station of ALX yesterday and noticed the sleepers were still on the front of 98 when she came through. It has been fairly cold of late, so I'm not sure what's up, other than they haven't needed to make the switch.

Maybe now that the new Viewliner Sleeper order is set, the problem with the toilets freezing in winter has been solved.

[Acela150]

As of yesterday, Sleepers were on the head end still.