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#21 PaulM

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 02:45 PM

TEXAS EAGLE (SUNSET DAYS) — 6 sets w/CONO (STL coach*, 2 cars)

2132|2232 [CHI-SAS] Superliner Trans-Dorm/Sleeper
2130|2230 [CHI-LAX] Superliner Sleeper
----|---- [CHI-SAS] Superliner Cross-Country Café
----|---- [CHI-SAS] Superliner Sightseer Lounge (or C.C.C.)
2110|2210 [CHI-SAS] Superliner Coach/Baggage
2111|2211 [CHI-SAS] Superliner Coach
2115|2215 [CHI-LAX] Superliner Coach
3210|3220 [CHI-STL] Superliner Coach*

* [i]No STL local coach during track work.[/]

Two questions.

Is there no 2120/2220 on SL days; i.e., does the TE always only have one sleeper?

Do they really split up the two thru cars, 2130/2230 and 2115/2215 and put one in between the trans-dorm and CCC and the other on the end? I guess with a 7+ hour layover, they can do whatever they want.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 02:49 PM

SILVER METEOR — 4 sets

----|---- —— Heritage Baggage
9744|9844 —— Amfleet II Coach
9743|9843 —— Amfleet II Coach
9742|9842 —— Amfleet II Coach
9741|9841 —— Amfleet II Coach
9740|9840 —— Amfleet II Coach
----|---- —— Amfleet II Lounge
----|---- —— Heritage Diner
9710|9810 —— Viewliner Sleeper
9711|9811 —— Viewliner Sleeper
9712|9812 —— Viewliner Sleeper


SILVER STAR — 4 sets

----|---- —— Heritage Baggage
9144|9244 —— Amfleet II Coach
9143|9243 —— Amfleet II Coach
9142|9242 —— Amfleet II Coach
9141|9241 —— Amfleet II Coach
9140|9240 —— Amfleet II Coach
----|---- —— Amfleet II Lounge
----|---- —— Heritage Diner
9110|9210 —— Viewliner Sleeper
9111|9211 —— Viewliner Sleeper


From a reply in other thread here, I thought with this latest experiment with the Viewliners on the rear, that the Heritage Baggage also moved from the first car, to the last car, to eliminate the Viewliner's tendency to "tail wag". :ohboy:

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 03:19 PM

My understanding was the comment said that the bag would potentially solve the wagging, but not that it had been done.
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Posted 20 December 2010 - 03:29 PM


TEXAS EAGLE (SUNSET DAYS) — 6 sets w/CONO (STL coach*, 2 cars)

2132|2232 [CHI-SAS] Superliner Trans-Dorm/Sleeper
2130|2230 [CHI-LAX] Superliner Sleeper
----|---- [CHI-SAS] Superliner Cross-Country Café
----|---- [CHI-SAS] Superliner Sightseer Lounge (or C.C.C.)
2110|2210 [CHI-SAS] Superliner Coach/Baggage
2111|2211 [CHI-SAS] Superliner Coach
2115|2215 [CHI-LAX] Superliner Coach
3210|3220 [CHI-STL] Superliner Coach*

* [i]No STL local coach during track work.[/]

Two questions.

Is there no 2120/2220 on SL days; i.e., does the TE always only have one sleeper?

Do they really split up the two thru cars, 2130/2230 and 2115/2215 and put one in between the trans-dorm and CCC and the other on the end? I guess with a 7+ hour layover, they can do whatever they want.


Yup! Every day the Texas Eagle consist is the exact same. On Sunset days, the lone sleeper is the 2120/2220 car, and on Sunset days, that sleeper is the 2130/2230 car.

I've never been able to stay awake to see the switching in SAS, but I know it is quite complicated. On through Sunset days, the sleeper is indeed taken out of the middle of the consist and tacked onto the last coach then tacked on to westbound Sunset.

Going eastbound, the Eagle sleeper is taken off the Sunset consist and put back into the middle of the Texas Eagle consist, ready to go northbound later in the morning.
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Posted 20 December 2010 - 05:08 PM

Yup! Every day the Texas Eagle consist is the exact same. On Sunset days, the lone sleeper is the 2120/2220 car, and on Sunset days, that sleeper is the 2130/2230 car.

Going eastbound, the Eagle sleeper is taken off the Sunset consist and put back into the middle of the Texas Eagle consist, ready to go northbound later in the morning.

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 10:32 PM

See first post.

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 08:56 PM

See first post.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 08:07 AM

See first post.

Edited by Donctor, 05 May 2012 - 11:42 PM.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 02:02 PM

So they have moved sleeper 5800/5900 on The CONO to be the last car on the train? If so, sweet! :cool: I'm riding The CONO for the first time in July, and the most consistent complaint I've read in trip reports is that the horn gets to be a lot - even for those of us who like the sound in the middle of the night.

Also THANKS Donctor for keeping the consists lists up to date!
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Posted 16 June 2011 - 07:05 PM

Just to add a little to the Texas Eagle: on days when there is an extra sleeper (charter group, etc.) it's line number will be 2121/2221.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 07:09 PM

So they have moved sleeper 5800/5900 on The CONO to be the last car on the train? If so, sweet! :cool: I'm riding The CONO for the first time in July, and the most consistent complaint I've read in trip reports is that the horn gets to be a lot - even for those of us who like the sound in the middle of the night.

Also THANKS Donctor for keeping the consists lists up to date!

No, the Revenue Sleeper will still be on the Front of the Train behind the TransDorm and In Front of the CCC!!(aka Diner!)Besides the Portland Section of the EB and the Sunset/Texas Eagle Cut out Sleeper from LAX-SAS there are No Superliner Trains with Sleepers on the Back. Previously on the CZ there was a Revenue Sleeper from CHI-Denver in the Summer but not sure if there still will be since the "Temporary" Station has Opened???

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 07:40 AM


So they have moved sleeper 5800/5900 on The CONO to be the last car on the train? If so, sweet! :cool: I'm riding The CONO for the first time in July, and the most consistent complaint I've read in trip reports is that the horn gets to be a lot - even for those of us who like the sound in the middle of the night.

Also THANKS Donctor for keeping the consists lists up to date!

No, the Revenue Sleeper will still be on the Front of the Train behind the TransDorm and In Front of the CCC!!(aka Diner!)Besides the Portland Section of the EB and the Sunset/Texas Eagle Cut out Sleeper from LAX-SAS there are No Superliner Trains with Sleepers on the Back. Previously on the CZ there was a Revenue Sleeper from CHI-Denver in the Summer but not sure if there still will be since the "Temporary" Station has Opened???


Thanks. Would have been nice, but I'm not complaining...
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Posted 17 June 2011 - 08:30 AM

jumhudson is incorrect. The sleeper was moved to the back this week. They do not switch the train around in Chicago, so the City of New Orleans also gets the sleeper at the rear.
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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:55 AM

jumhudson is incorrect. The sleeper was moved to the back this week. They do not switch the train around in Chicago, so the City of New Orleans also gets the sleeper at the rear.

:hi: Thanks for the Update! I didn't know about the Switch this past week, I'm one of those that prefer the Sleepers on the Front of the Train but except for the LSL and the EB doesn't really matter since the walk to the Diner/Lounge isn't that Long! (do think the Tail Wagging does help create a Rougher Ride! I'm also one who likes to hear the Whistle at Night! :wub: )

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 06:36 PM

Does anybody know why the California Zephyr and the Crescent have moved the sleepers to the rear and the coaches to the front? Picking up the CZ in Davis this past April, we found we were on the wrong end of the platform to catch the CZ home to Denver. From the newest listing, I see that the Crescent has done the same. So, what's the idea here? Thanks for your responses.

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 07:01 PM

the city of new orleans # 59 had 2 sleepers yesterday coming from chi , the last car was a sleeper 5900 the one before it was a dinner car then the lounge then 2 coach cars then another sleeper .

my sleeper at the end had all the crew in it . This car did not have coffee or juice like the sleeper did that was in front of the two coach cars . we had a friend on that sleeper and the attendant on that one put the beds down while they were at dinner and provided coffee and juice.
the number 59 attendant we saw once when he collected tickets . We put down our own beds at midnight "im 8 months preg" they did not have coffee or juice at our station and the crew was really loud after the dinner car closed it sounded like they were having a party in the downstairs area of our sleeper. which is where the head dinner attendant said the crew rooms were.

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 07:08 PM

the city of new orleans # 59 had 2 sleepers yesterday coming from chi , the last car was a sleeper 5900 the one before it was a dinner car then the lounge then 2 coach cars then another sleeper .

my sleeper at the end had all the crew in it . This car did not have coffee or juice like the sleeper did that was in front of the two coach cars . we had a friend on that sleeper and the attendant on that one put the beds down while they were at dinner and provided coffee and juice.
the number 59 attendant we saw once when he collected tickets . We put down our own beds at midnight "im 8 months preg" they did not have coffee or juice at our station and the crew was really loud after the dinner car closed it sounded like they were having a party in the downstairs area of our sleeper. which is where the head dinner attendant said the crew rooms were.


You were in the "transdorm". This is also called the crew car. From what it sounds like. You are still entitled to the coffee in the other sleeper but if your questioned just tell the person your in the crew car.

But as far as putting your bed down and your situation. I would call Customer Relations and file a complaint. As much as we say it on here that if your in the Transdorm you'll be forgotten this shouldn't have happened to you! Amtrak did a terrible job here. Call 1-800-USA-RAIL talk to an agent say you want to speak to Customer Relations. Have you reservation number handy and explain the situation, and for future reference ask on here if your sleeper car is the Transdorm if it is ask to be relocated ASAP!
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Posted 15 October 2011 - 03:34 PM

We are avid Amtrak users and generally take a few trips each year. Our favorite is the auto train and we will be leaving on it again in less than 2 weeks. The question I have relates to the deluxe sleeper compartments...is there a way to determine which directio the couch will be facing? We are in E going Southbound and J going Northbound.

The following website does show the internals of the sleeper compartments but not for the auto train.

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 03:53 PM

Nope, it's pretty much luck of the draw.

I don't think that those cars get turned all that often, so someone with recent Auto Train experience may be able to offer an educated guess.
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 08:23 PM

See first post.

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