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#1 Steve4031

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 09:27 AM

Here is a link to the article.

http://www.nytimes.c...-Rail.html?_r=1

Wonder which 13 will get the funding, and what can be done with it.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 09:41 AM

Here is a link to the article.

http://www.nytimes.c...-Rail.html?_r=1

Wonder which 13 will get the funding, and what can be done with it.


I just hope it doesn't turn out that all we pay is consultants to study the corridors. It seems like we as a nation just love to spend money on consultants do do lovely presentations and charts and graphs, then don't spend the money to get things to move.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 09:48 AM

Here is a link to the article.

http://www.nytimes.c...-Rail.html?_r=1

Wonder which 13 will get the funding, and what can be done with it.


I just hope it doesn't turn out that all we pay is consultants to study the corridors. It seems like we as a nation just love to spend money on consultants do do lovely presentations and charts and graphs, then don't spend the money to get things to move.

Let's hope so for sure! There are more Lobbyists in Washington than officials, and in an election year the political suits will be sniffing around the trough like flies around honey! Perhaps the Prez will listen to Amtrak Joe on this, we all know that political considerations will weigh heavily in this matter but getting people to work that actually do real work as opposed to shuffling paper and doing power point presentations is a must!Doubt if my state will get any due to the political climate down here but good luck to those that do! :)
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 10:02 AM

An article I read several days ago quoted an insider saying that most of the money is going to projects with completed studies. With the economy/jobs being the #1 issue in America, I think Obama will want this money being spent as soon as possible.

UPDATE: This is the article I read.

Some industry experts expect the biggest recipients to be states that have already invested heavily in rail and whose projects are closest to the construction phase.


Edited by jcl653, 27 January 2010 - 10:13 AM.


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Posted 27 January 2010 - 10:16 AM

Yes, some of the funds will go to studies, because you need to do that before you decide where and what to build. But with $8 billion to distribute and since this is supposed to be about jobs, much of the funding will go to upgrading or building new tracks.

The good news for Amtrak is the that AP article states "Overall, 31 states will receive funds." So the $8 billion will be split between a few big projects and a bunch of smaller projects to spread the funds around the states. Which is what most expected.

Most of the smaller projects submitted by the states were for projects that would benefit existing or extend Amtrak service. For example, Maine is likely to get some of the funding to extend the Downeaster and to upgrade the existing track for faster travel times between Boston and Portland. Virginia submitted a $1.75 billion Track 2 application for upgrading the rail corridor from DC to Richmond to Petersburg. But Virginia also submitted a $75 million Track 1 application for adding a 3rd track to and upgrading 11 miles of the line between Fredericksburg and DC which will help reduce bottlenecks for the 9 Amtrak trains a day that take that line - and VRE as well. If Virginia does not get the $1.75 billion, hopefully they will get the $75 million as the consolation funds for the next incremental step in upgrading the RF&P line.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 11:38 AM

It's curious how the California section of that map includes the coastal route as well as the HSR plan that we voted for.

And Vegas is on there, very cool.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 12:50 PM

I would think that the CA map would mean some funding for the state HSR up the SJ Valley as well as some funding to improve (maybe add service) on the Starlight route.
Just my speculation.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 12:58 PM

31 states - that sounds promising! I don't think 31 states fund Amtrak, so I'm going to be more than a little disappointed if that many states receive funding and Vermont, which contributes the highest per capita of any state for Amtrak service, doesn't see a dime. Really hoping for the Ethan Allen extension, but I'd really be happy with any improvements around here.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 01:06 PM

Would a Sacramento to San Diego HSR line mean and end to the Surfliners and Cal trains?

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 02:47 PM

Would a Sacramento to San Diego HSR line mean and end to the Surfliners and Cal trains?



If people are wise, the Surfliners and Capitol corridor trains would serve as feeder trains to the HSR system. This is how it is done in Europe.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 03:03 PM

I wish some of that money could go toward fixing the a/c in the Turboliners!

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 03:09 PM

I wish some of that money could go toward fixing the a/c in the Turboliners!

Or a bridge so I can choose the train under air. :lol: :rolleyes: :lol: :rolleyes: :o :lol: :rolleyes:

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 04:00 PM

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 05:21 PM

Illinois update posted on ChicagoBreakingNews.com:

Illinois stands to receive far less money than it had expected from the Obama administration on Thursday to begin developing high-speed passenger trains and transform rail service as the preferred transportation option.

State officials were hoping that the state would be awarded grants totaling at least $2 billion to operate 110 mph trains between Chicago and other Midwestern cities, starting with St. Louis, Detroit, Milwaukee and the Twin Cities.
But congressional sources who were briefed on the White House's plan said funding to the state will fall short.



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Posted 27 January 2010 - 05:38 PM

Illinois update posted on ChicagoBreakingNews.com:

Illinois stands to receive far less money than it had expected from the Obama administration on Thursday to begin developing high-speed passenger trains and transform rail service as the preferred transportation option.

State officials were hoping that the state would be awarded grants totaling at least $2 billion to operate 110 mph trains between Chicago and other Midwestern cities, starting with St. Louis, Detroit, Milwaukee and the Twin Cities.
But congressional sources who were briefed on the White House's plan said funding to the state will fall short.



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Posted 27 January 2010 - 09:01 PM

It's curious how the California section of that map includes the coastal route as well as the HSR plan that we voted for.

And Vegas is on there, very cool.

I see that, a very straight line from LA to Vegas. I couldn't enlarge the map, so it's hard to tell what towns and cities that impacts.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 09:28 PM

He just named Tampa as going to break ground.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 09:42 PM

Any idea where we can find this information after the speech is done?

Edited by transit54, 27 January 2010 - 09:43 PM.


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Posted 27 January 2010 - 09:47 PM

Here are my guesses....

1 - Florida for Orlando to Tampa Corridor.
2- NEC NYP-WAS
3- NEC NYP-BOS
4- California Project
5- Nevada for Las Vegas to LA/Anaheim.
6- IL for CHI-St.Louis Corridor
7- WI for CHI-Milwalkee Corridor
8- MO for St. Louis-Kansas City Corridor
9- VA for Regionals
10- PA for Keystone Improvement/Expansion
11- NC for Charlotte-Raleigh
12- WA for Cascades
13- This one is up in the air... couldn't decide.

Thought it was fun to guess....

Edited by TVRM610, 27 January 2010 - 09:56 PM.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 09:50 PM

Here are my guesses....

1 - Florida for Orlando to Tampa Corridor.
2- NEC NYP-WAS
3- NEC NYP-BOS
4- California Project
5- Nevada for Las Vegas to LA/Anaheim.
6- IL for CHI-St.Louis Corridor
7- WI for CHI-Milwalkee Corridor
8- MO for St. Louis-Kansas City Corridor
9- VA for Regionals
10- PA for Keystone Improvement/Expansion
11- NC (not sure where)
12- WA for Cascades
13- This one is up in the air... couldn't decide.

Thought it was fun to guess....


The Kansas City Star's "PrimeBuzz" political blog is reporting that Missouri and Illinois will both be receiving funding, but not at the levels requested. Senator Kit Bond confirmed that Missouri will be reciving funds, but would not provide additional details.
http://primebuzz.kcs...m/?q=node/21153

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