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Posted 26 November 2009 - 01:45 PM

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By JENNIFER 8. LEE

A 13-year-old Brooklyn boy with Asperger’s syndrome vanished in the New York subway system for 11 days despite frantic search by his parents, relatives, police and the Mexican consulate to find him.

Since the boy, Francisco Hernandez Jr., was found on Oct. 26 at the Coney Island station by a police officer, no satisfying answer has emerged to explain how a boy could disappear in a system dotted with surveillance cameras and missing persons posters with his picture on them.

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 05:10 PM

The New York subway system is aspie heaven. So many lines, trains and details to memorize. No wonder that one guy suffering from Asperger's learned so much about the subway that he was able to steal a train full of people and successfully operate it for a number of stops, before derailing after taking a turn at high speed.

Here in Southern California there isn't much fun to be had when you're hopelessly into trains for no reason.

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 05:18 PM

View PostSpokker, on Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 05:10 PM, said:

The New York subway system is aspie heaven. So many lines, trains and details to memorize. No wonder that one guy suffering from Asperger's learned so much about the subway that he was able to steal a train full of people and successfully operate it for a number of stops, before derailing after taking a turn at high speed.

Here in Southern California there isn't much fun to be had when you're hopelessly into trains for no reason.


He didn't derail the train, he ran a grade timing signal and didn't know how to reset the braking system, which is why he got caught. Right up until that point, he had operated the train perfectly making all the stops properly, and probably would have gotten away with things but for his being fooled by the GT signal and not knowing how to reset things.
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 06:08 PM

Did I miss something in the article, or was there another story about someone with Asperger's syndrome stealing a subway? :huh: I only read that Francisco RODE the subways for 11 days! :blink:
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 06:11 PM

View PostAlanB, on Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 05:18 PM, said:

View PostSpokker, on Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 05:10 PM, said:

The New York subway system is aspie heaven. So many lines, trains and details to memorize. No wonder that one guy suffering from Asperger's learned so much about the subway that he was able to steal a train full of people and successfully operate it for a number of stops, before derailing after taking a turn at high speed.

Here in Southern California there isn't much fun to be had when you're hopelessly into trains for no reason.


He didn't derail the train, he ran a grade timing signal and didn't know how to reset the braking system, which is why he got caught. Right up until that point, he had operated the train perfectly making all the stops properly, and probably would have gotten away with things but for his being fooled by the GT signal and not knowing how to reset things.


Are we talking about the same story or a different incident. None of the links in this thread point to this child running a subway train.
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 06:16 PM

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 07:27 PM

Oh, sorry, I was talking about another guy. http://en.wikipedia....Darius_McCollum

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 11:11 PM

Yes, Darius is the guy who showed up at 207th Street many years ago and took an A Subway train many years ago by pretending to be a motorman sent to cover a shift. He made all stops successfully down the west side of Manhattan without incident, even the conductor didn't realize that he wasn't a real motorman. I believe it was when he started down the tunnel under the East River, although perhaps it was coming into West 4th Street, where he blew past a grade timing signal, which of course dropped his air on him stopping the train.

When control told him to reset the valve and recharge the train, it became clear that he didn't know how to do that and they realized that he wasn't an actual motorman.

This case has nothing to do with the recent news story that was linked to in the first post about another 11 year old boy who just spent several days just riding the trains because he was too scared to go home.
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Posted 28 November 2009 - 03:10 AM

why did he runaway in the first place.
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Posted 28 November 2009 - 10:32 AM

View Postamtrakwolverine, on Sat, Nov 28, 2009, 03:10 AM, said:

why did he runaway in the first place.


He was afraid that his parents would be mad about his schoolwork, and he has asperger syndrome.
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Posted 01 December 2009 - 01:34 PM

I read a book when I was in Middle School called Slake's Limbo about a boy who lived in the New York City Subway for months. Sounds like this guy lived it.
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Posted 01 December 2009 - 04:49 PM

View PostPhila 30th St, on Tue, Dec 1, 2009, 10:34 AM, said:

I read a book when I was in Middle School called Slake's Limbo about a boy who lived in the New York City Subway for months. Sounds like this guy lived it.


I read the same book in the 5th grade. That brought back some memories.
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Posted 12 December 2009 - 08:27 PM

View Postthe_traveler, on Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 03:08 PM, said:

Did I miss something in the article, or was there another story about someone with Asperger's syndrome stealing a subway? :huh: I only read that Francisco RODE the subways for 11 days! :blink:

Actually, without reading this, some of us would think that Francisco was the_traveler.



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