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#743315 "Like" System Enabled

Posted by PRR 60 on 01 March 2018 - 01:11 PM

We have enabled the often requested "Like" system of the board software.  At the bottom of each post is a button that says "Like This."  Click it, and your "Like" will be recorded. For each post, you will see a list of those who have liked that post, either as a direct list or a click to show the full list in a popup.


With this change, it is now possible to show your agreement with a post without have to make a post that only says that.  Of course, if you have something to add to the discussion, please do.


Let us know if things do not seem to be working correctly.  The controls for the board software can be a bit challenging.  We think we have everything configured correctly, but we'll see.

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#750171 Amtrak's New "Fresh Choices" Dining on CL & LSL

Posted by John Bredin on 20 April 2018 - 09:35 AM

If every experiment is going to be slapped down and chicken-littled to death before it even begins, the message sent to Amtrak is that anything other than preserving the exact status quo in a specimen jar or amber is unacceptable.

The message announcing this makes it clear that this plan is not set in stone. We all know of experiments that Amtrak has tried and then withdrawn when they didn't work. Feeding back that an experiment once tried is a failure for particular reasons is right and proper. Feeding back that experiments should never be tried and have failed before they even begin is easily and rightly discounted as unhelpful.

IMHO, Amtrak leadership is not sitting Simon Legree-like cackling at the prospect of making the passenger experience as uncomfortable as possible, as if that's their goal. They are trying to balance what attracts passengers to ride and keep riding against very real financial and political constraints. Exploring where that balance lies by putting an ounce weight on one side, always able to pick it up again OR add another depending on what happens, is good management. But some people seem to equate it with blunderingly and maliciously tipping over the scale altogether.

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#749950 Amtrak's New "Fresh Choices" Dining on CL & LSL

Posted by Ryan on 19 April 2018 - 03:31 PM

Nor does it excuse the fact that I can get better out of Delta on a three-hour flight on a regular basis.

Hades take whomever designed this.

No one has tried the food yet. It has the potential to be quite good.

Don't confuse the issue with facts and logic. It's the end of the world as we know it.
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#750581 Anderson Speaks on Long Distance Trains

Posted by mlanoue on 22 April 2018 - 08:03 AM

I think people do need to speak up, but our focus should be on Congress. Anderson's not going to get rich working at Amtrak, whether it's corridor or LD trains. It's up to Congress to stress the importance of the national network to him.
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#750140 Amtrak's New "Fresh Choices" Dining on CL & LSL

Posted by Ryan on 20 April 2018 - 08:05 AM

This may be a trade I can deal with if all of the whiners that eternally claim that they are going to stop riding actually do so, and stop posting here in the process.

Might as well support dismantling the whole national system and shut this side down, then youd never have to read any whining again.


We literally have no idea what this food is like, and we have chicken little running around like the world is ending.

God forbid we wait and see how this plays out before passing judgement. The litany is things that turn out better than the torches and pitchforks crowd makes them out to be is nearly endless.
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#750133 Amtrak's New "Fresh Choices" Dining on CL & LSL

Posted by Ryan on 20 April 2018 - 07:44 AM

This may be a trade I can deal with if all of the whiners that eternally claim that they are going to stop riding actually do so, and stop posting here in the process.
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#748507 Amtrak is not an airline. ..

Posted by caravanman on 10 April 2018 - 09:44 AM

The point is that the ticket agent had no right to mouth off to a customer about his or her feelings about the job.


Undermining the company that pays your salary is a particularly bad thing, in my view.


Yes, be unhappy with your job, but confine that to friends, workmates, the company, the union, don't bad mouth to the public!



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#744633 Long Time Member Joe Hess Has Taken His Final Ride

Posted by jebr on 12 March 2018 - 12:53 PM

I'm saddened to hear the news. :( He was a very nice guy and he will be missed.


The admin team has moved his user (hessjm) to the Honored Members group as a token of gratitude for his contributions to the Amtrak Unlimited community.

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#753424 Joe Boardman questions current Amtrak's managements motives

Posted by PRR 60 on 10 May 2018 - 08:37 AM

There are those of us who do not think that Richard Anderson is trying to kill the LD. That simply means we have a different opinion. it does not mean we are "sand eaters" or "dumb."  There are even some of us that think that some LD advocates are distorting and misleading with some of what they are saying, intentionally or not. The last gasp of someone who has a failing argument is name calling and insults.  There is a lot of name and insults being thrown around right now on this subject.

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#751813 Anderson Speaks on Long Distance Trains

Posted by JRR on 29 April 2018 - 08:28 PM

If I didn’t consider rail travel as part of my vacation, I would never go by Amtrak. It is cheaper and faster to either fly or drive.

That being said, we really enjoy train travel and will continue to “vacation” on Amtrak as long as we can.
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#743319 "Like" System Enabled

Posted by Ryan on 01 March 2018 - 01:27 PM

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#754363 Acela sets interior refresh 2018-19

Posted by PVD on 16 May 2018 - 08:47 AM

Recycled leather is a composite and it is a versatile and useful product. You aren't directly turning a seatcover into a wallet, you are including them in the scraps that make up the leather. Reduce-Reuse-Recycle

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#754212 Amtrak's New "Fresh Choices" Dining on CL & LSL

Posted by Ryan on 15 May 2018 - 09:57 AM

I'm not sure I get the hate on the kids meal. If you were to ask my five year old what she wanted to eat, this is literally exactly what she would ask for (except she only likes cheese sandwiches without meat. I could literally go downstairs and assemble this kids meal from what we have in the kitchen because that's what the girl eats (constantly, if we would let her).
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#753499 Joe Boardman questions current Amtrak's managements motives

Posted by PRR 60 on 10 May 2018 - 03:27 PM

Would someone please explain to me why Anderson took this job?


I don't see any passion for anything except cutting, and he could have done that anywhere. He doesn't need the salary.


Why on earth did he want to take on Amtrak when he obviously has no interest in passenger rail? Frankly, many people on here have a better understanding of how it works, and the rest of us are open to learning and discussion, which he doesn't seem to be.


He's a disruptor: a manager who comes into an organization and questions everything and accepts nothing from the past unless it is proven to his or her satisfaction - and that's not easy. His intent is to make a comfortable organization uncomfortable, and change the way things are done.  People can either play ball or get out.  I've been through that kind of management, and while it was very unsettling when it happened, we came out much, much better in the end.

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#752126 Staffed to Unstaffed Stations Master Thread

Posted by Devil's Advocate on 02 May 2018 - 11:45 AM

Amtrak stations aren't just being closed or abandoned, they're packing up and moving out of state.  :lol:

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#750863 Anderson Speaks on Long Distance Trains

Posted by Trogdor on 23 April 2018 - 09:44 PM

Theres nothing about which to feel sorry for Wick Moorman. He was more or less doing Amtrak a favor by taking the job when he really didnt want. He was retired and really had no intention of coming back to work, but he was the one that felt sorry for Amtrak, and took the job, temporarily, to help Amtrak extend the search for a permanent CEO.

When Boardman announced his retirement, essentially nobody wanted the job. Thats why Moorman was brought in.

You typically bring in an interim CEO when there is a sudden and unexpected departure (death, sudden resignation to take another position somewhere else, a scandal forcing an early departure, etc.). Boardman announced his retirement many months, if not a year, in advance. Even if he hadnt explicitly announced it, his age and years of service in the industry should have caused the company/board to work on some sort of succession plan. If there was anybody both willing and qualified for the job, they should have been known and hired prior to Boardmans departure. Instead, after a many-months-long search, we wind up with someone who was already retired and said up front that he was only going to be there a short time.

So, whatever people think of Anderson, he was (and I dont like using the word literally very lightly) almost literally the only person they could get to do the job. And he, himself, was essentially already retired. I know Ive said on here before that Amtrak was an organizational mess. Its something that executive-level folks with a future career left dont want to touch.

Its unfortunate that long-distance trains are suffering, but lets be honest, theyve been suffering a slow, steady decline for a couple of decades (or more). The quality of food in the dining car has decreased. The amount of cooked-on-board food has decreased. Individual route menus have been replaced with standardized menus system-wide. Sleeping car perks have been reduced or eliminated. And much of that happened long before anyone associated Richard Anderson with a railroad.

Many folks dont like Anderson, but I really dont know who would be qualified for the job and actually want it. Experienced railroad executives are better off with freight companies (and they know it), and experienced passenger executives are better off at more stable transit and commuter railroads (and they know it). Who does that leave you with?

Edit: apologies for the lack of proper apostrophies. The iOS mobile website bug seems to have removed them all.
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#748553 Richard Anderson replacing Wick Moorman as Amtrak CEO

Posted by Trogdor on 10 April 2018 - 02:21 PM



I think everyone here can agree that Richard Anderson is trying to make Amtrak profitable at all costs, including ailenating the company's best customers, and in the end doing more harm than good.

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Put me in the "I do not agree" column.
You think he has some redeeming qualities?

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Yes.  He has successfully managed several large corporations (not just airlines), and knows how to get companies to be disciplined in their operation (something Amtrak doesn't seem to know how to do).


He also doesn't like the (dying) status quo, which is something I (and many others) have also been frustrated with in recent years.


Amtrak, organizationally, is an absolute mess, and has been for many years.  Under Boardman, the company underwent a management restructuring every 2-3 years, with nothing to show for any of them.


Moorman may have been good, but it was obvious he didn't really want the job and never intended to stay.


If Richard Anderson can instill some organizational discipline and consistency, that will be an achievement not seen in decades.  Sorry you can't get a Denny's-quality meal or ride around in your 70-year-old private car.

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#745367 If you had to cut an Amtrak route, which one would you cut?

Posted by Lonestar648 on 20 March 2018 - 12:20 AM

Personally, I would not cut a single train.  The shorter trains have state funding so would not be likely to be cut unless state funding were lost.  The long distance routes in both the East and the West have their own support groups so would be difficult to single one out.  Many people say the Sunset Ltd., but in reality, many think the daily TE extended to LA would be well traveled compared to the Sunset Limited.  Bottom Line, I can not target one LD train as needing to be cut.  To me the Amtrak map needs to be grown in both route miles and passengers.  The more paying passengers, the more profit potential there is.

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#751391 Amtrak Dining Cuts Petition

Posted by jis on 27 April 2018 - 10:22 AM

The best thing to do, if you care about good food on Amtrak, is not to sign anything.  It's far better to complain about various attempts to help the situation than participate in any of them.  Furthermore, be sure to spend so much time analyzing, in excruciating detail, all attempts to help the situation, that you, yourself, end up doing absolutely nothing to correct the situation either.  Well done!

Stop being silly and hoity toity about it. You are losing credibility fast. Do you think that all that we are doing is signing these silly petitions and doing nothing else. That only suggest how out of touch you are about what is being done.


There are good, well thought out petitions that are worth signing. This is not one of them. There are people who are getting out of their petition signing armchairs and actually meeting with Congressmen, Senators, Mayors, State Representatives, Governors, Amtrak Board Members and even Anderson to talk things through. Just because you are not doing so does not mean others are not. Will their work meet with success? Who knows? And indeed, Good well thought out and composed petitions help, as DA mentioned in his excellent post. But poorly written nonsensical petitions just muddy the water and waste everyone's time and achieve nothing.

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#750301 Southwest Airlines Uncontained Engine Failure, One Fatality (4/17/18)

Posted by saxman on 20 April 2018 - 05:26 PM

Don't forget that it took BOTH pilots to get the aircraft on the ground safely. In normal operations the pilot monitoring (PM) is the one talking on the radios while the pilot flying (PF) is the one operating the controls. Now in an emergency situation like this, it takes some serious coordination on who is doing what. Now each airline is slightly different with their SOP's. At my airline, most emergencies or abnormalities, the controls and radios are first handed to the first officer (FO), while the captain manages the situation by first getting in the Quick Reference Handbook (QRH) and takes care of the problem. Then they have to coordinate with the flight attendants about the situation of diverting, whether or not there are hurt people, then plan with ATC about diverting. The one emergency where it is the captain doing the flying is actually the emergency decent after a depressurization, in which the captain will take control of the aircraft and ask the FO to declare an emergency with ATC and then reads off the checklist for doing said decent and tells the captain exactly what do to. At a safe altitude, then the FO can take the controls while the captain manages the situation and makes sure everyone is coordinated and all final checklists are complete. Now Southwest might have totally different procedures so we won't know who was flying until the NTSB report is out. It could have very well been the FO that flew the entire time. Or perhaps he was flying while she was managing the last minute checklists and maybe they transferred controls for the landing. Who knows yet? The fact is that it's a team effort.


What's amazing is that this flight had not one but TWO threats at first. They had engine fire indication immediately followed by a rapid decompression. Two immediate threats that have to be dealt with in a certain order. The decompression was obviously the more serious threat at the time because you can't fight a engine fire when you're unconscious. I'm curious to see the transcripts of their thought process when this first happened. Luckily the engine was not on fire and it was just an indication when the thing nearly disintegrated. Once at safe altitude, they still had to secure the dead engine, run the checklists for single engine approaches as they had wing damage. And make sure everything was okay in the cabin. Things weren't so they made sure medics were on hand as well. 

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